Saltar a contenido principal
Fotos
Fotos
Consejos
Lo último en Houzz
Conversaciones
Estudios de Houzz
Inicia sesión
Houzz Logo Print
Ver conversaciones
Dilemas de diseño
suzanne_mckay2633842

Wolf convection steam oven vs Miele steam oven?

Suzanne M
hace 8 años

Help! Had my heart set on Miele steam oven but have no one in my area to get parts from in a timely fashion. It has been recommended to replace with Wolf combi steam oven. Apparently the Wolf has very poor instructions for use and virtually no recipes! Any advice appreciated!!

Respuesta destacada
  • B Sheets
    hace 7 años

    We have a love/hate relationship with our Miele CombiSteam oven. We purchased it brand new in December 2015 as part of our kitchen remodel. It is the "plumbed" version (model no. DGC6705XL24). Have had Miele reps out twice now to no avail to fix a problem with the oven not draining properly after cooking. The residual water after steam cooking just sits there on the bottom with a plugged drain hole. After many hours of research and investigation with our contractor, we found the issue which is this: the built-in drain pump cannot develop enough head pressure to move the water column in the drainage line even when installed in compliance with Miele's specs. So be very careful when you install this guy. If you get the 'plumbed' version, it needs a drain line that ties into your kitchen drain tap, usually under the sink. Miele's installation instructions say that the drain line can have a maximum vertical climb height of 19 1/4", such as from the bottom floor of your undersink cabinet up to a drain tap. Not true! The pump on these units CANNOT push a water column that high. The drain line must be downward sloping or flat pretty much the entire way to the drain for the waste water to exit the oven, else after a couple steamings the water column will back up & you will get a lovely smelling pool of resting water at the bottom of your oven and a plugged line. Our install was well within Miele specs, and the two reps who came out thought we were crazy and our contractor had done something wrong. Well.... we're not, and he did not. Miele's engineering team needs to upgrade the drain pumps on these units, or change their install specs, because it has been very frustrating to own this nearly $5,000 oven and see standing water in it all the time. Re-routing the drain line so it routes down under the house to the main sewage outlet seemed to solve the problem. But what a PITA.

    But hey, other than that, we love it ;-). Cooks great, the vegetables have flavors you'll never taste with traditional cooking. Like restaurant quality.

    Miele: if you're reading this, save your customers some heartache and please put a more powerful drain pump in v2.0.

    You can see our oven in the right corner of this picture of our finished remodel, on top of the Miele Convection Oven we also got (which has been great):


    Sonoma Coast Kitchen Remodel · Más información

    Comentarios (15)

    • gtcircus
      hace 8 años
      I have no advice, but love the discussion. In same predicament.
    • PRO
      Sub-Zero, Wolf, and Cove
      hace 8 años
      Última modificación: hace 8 años

      Hi Suzanne M and bellburgmaggie, I'm Sarah and I work at Sub-Zero and Wolf. The convection steam oven is personally one of my favorite Wolf products due to its versatility. If you'd like to learn a bit more about it before you make a decision, I welcome you to visit a Sub-Zero and Wolf showroom nearest you and even attend a convection steam oven cooking demonstration. (To find the showroom closest to you please visit www.subzero-wolf.com/locator.) This demonstration will allow you to see (and taste) the oven in action. You'll also be able to ask our chefs and staff any questions you may have. Regarding further instructions and recipes, we recently published a cookbook full of recipes and techniques specific to the Wolf convection steam oven. Have a look here. I'm also happy to answer any other questions--let me know how I can help. Thank you!

    • Suzanne M
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thank you Sarah! I'm going with the wolf!! I wish that Wolf could make the ebook into a real cook book?! It would be much easier to use!!

    • PRO
      Clarke - New England’s Sub-Zero & Wolf Showroom
      hace 8 años

      Suzanne M - Brian from the New England Sub-Zero and Wolf Showroom. Wolf does make this Steam oven book in a physical hardcover book! I have plenty here, if you'd like, please send me a direct message and I'll send one your way!

    • Suzanne M
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Brian, that would be much appreciated if you could send me the link!! I want to read every page!! I'm not that interested in e books! Thank you!

    • PRO
      Clarke - New England’s Sub-Zero & Wolf Showroom
      hace 8 años
      Última modificación: hace 8 años

      You Got it! Please send me an email with your address: bbugler@clarkeliving.com and I will make sure to send it out ASAP!

    • Suzanne M
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thank you so very much!! I'm getting very excited about Wolf!!

    • PRO
      Clarke - New England’s Sub-Zero & Wolf Showroom
      hace 8 años

      Suzanne,


      You are making a great choice for the Wolf Steam oven. I got rid of my microwave once I got a Steam oven in my apartment, and I haven't needed one it in two years! It's my most used appliance in my family's kitchen. I Hard-boil my eggs every Sunday for breakfast for the week. You don't even need to remove them from the carton, just put the whole thing in and it will take care of the rest.

      If you are like me, I love seeing the product in action and learning how it works and some recipes. Here are a couple videos from Iron Chef contestant Ming Tsai on what he uses it for on his cooking show!

      Cooking Salmon in steam oven - https://youtu.be/axp_Av45cGU

      Cooking a turkey in steam oven - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN7t5CM8-gM

      Wolf Gourmet mode explained in Steam oven - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bedUygM0uIM

      Defrosting and cooking in one step in the steam oven - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YucWJ1C8ZLc

      Also, I got your email and will be sending you on the Steam oven cookbook on Monday, December seventh. Please do let me know when you get it just so I can make sure. Enjoy!

    • Suzanne M
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thank you so very much!! I'm loving the Wolf!!

    • kitchengirl
      hace 8 años

      Suzanne, Not sure if you know about it, but the GardenWeb side of Houzz, has a much deeper history of in-depth discussions on kitchens and appliances and on both the Miele and Wolf combi-steam ovens. For example:

      http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2343908/miele-vs-wolf-steam-oven?n=37

      So if after you install your Wolf combi-steam, and you have a question on how other people cook something, or want to bypass a feature, you can ask for "real life" feedback there.


    • Suzanne M
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thank you!!

    • Kuma Dee
      hace 7 años

      I have just bought wolf for our Maine kitchen. I got the steam convection because I did the class down at Clarke in Milford, MA and I was SOLD! Can anyone recommend which tray inserts I should get?

      Thanks!

    • PRO
      Clarke - New England’s Sub-Zero & Wolf Showroom
      hace 7 años
      Última modificación: hace 7 años

      Hi Libby!

      The
      unit comes with one full size solid pan and one full size perforated.

      My
      favorite accessories are:

      #820017
      solid “square like” stainless pan 12 ¾” x 1 ¼” x 14”

      #820016
      solid “mini rectangular” stainless pan 12 ¾” x 1 ½” x 7”

      #821718
      full extension rack glides

      Happy cooking!

    • portland_family
      hace 7 años

      I own the Wolf Steam Combi CSO024. Save yourself a headache and DON'T BUY IT! This oven gave us problems from the beginning. Sometimes steam wouldn't come out. The controls didn't always respond. After being installed for three months, it completely died. Over 3 months later, it's still broken. The Wolf certified repair shop has been at our house 4 times and replaced the same part twice and the control board. It still dies with a loud POP and blows a fuse when they power it up after trying a new part. Wolf is unwilling to replace it. They've just ordered yet ANOTHER part. I've been without a steam oven for longer than I've owed it now. I didn't have the oven for the holidays, and Wolf couldn't care less. I predict my warranty will be expired before they fix it. I just bought a SubZero and Wolf cooktop as well. I really expected better customer service.

    Patrocinado

    Volver a cargar la página para no volver a ver este anuncio en concreto

    Más conversaciones
    MEDIDAS PLATO DE DUCHA
    4
    ayuda!! necesito decoración
    3
    Necesito cama individual en despacho
    4
    Cómo puedo complementar este hall de entrada?
    5
    Que puedo colocar en ese muro?
    3
    España
    Personalizar mi experiencia con el uso de cookies

    Houzz utiliza cookies y tecnologías similares para personalizar mi experiencia, ofrecerme contenido relevante y mejorar los productos y servicios de Houzz. Al hacer clic en 'Aceptar' confirmo que estoy de acuerdo con lo antes expuesto, como se describe con más detalle en la Política de cookies de Houzz. Puedo rechazar las cookies no esenciales haciendo clic en 'Gestionar preferencias'.