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aries61

Kohler Cast Iron or Rohl Fireclay Kitchen Sink

aries61
hace 8 años

Looking for a kitchen sink and think I've narrowed it down to these 2:

Kohler Bakersfield K-5832 cast iron - inside sink size - 27"x15"x8"
Rohl Allia 6307 fireclay - inside sink size - 28 1/2"x17 3/8"x10

I don't like stainless steel or silgranite(or similar material) so I ruled those out. I have a 33" sink base so my choices are some what limited. I added a couple of inches to the depth of the sink cabinet so it 26" deep if it matters at all.

I currently have Kohler cast iron sink so I'm familiar with that material, but not with fireclay. Looking for feedback, comment or suggestions on my choices.

Kohler sink

Rohl sink


Also found I faucet that I like, but not sure if I want to spend $1250 on it. Would not be in this finish. It's a Waterstone faucet. Never heard of that brand before. It's made in the US.






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  • friedajune
    hace 8 años
    Última modificación: hace 8 años

    I would not spend that amount on that faucet - think of the nooks and crannies you will have to clean. That's a chore I would not want to add to my list of chores. There are many traditional-style faucets that do not have that amount of nooks and crannies, and are not priced like that (Kohler Vinnata comes to mind, but there are others - check out Grohe for high-quality faucets). Plus, I too have read the complaints on this forum about Waterstone's customer service.

    I do not have either of those sinks, but I have read numerous posts on this forum of fireclay showing crazing over time when there is a disposal attached to it, due to the tightening at the drain needed for the disposal.

    I agree with Mabeldingeldine above about much preferring an offset drain to a centered drain. Once you have a sink with an offset drain, you will never want to go back to a centered drain. Kohler also makes enameled cast iron sinks with offset drains. The Riverby and the Whitehaven come to mind, though I do not know if the specs fit your requirements - it's worth looking into.

    Comentarios (17)

    • PRO
      Missi Smith Design Co.
      hace 8 años

      Waterstone is a very high end name brand that has gorgeous fixtures - but you will pay for that name! I love my fireclay sink. I've had 3 and never any issues.

    • mabeldingeldine
      hace 8 años

      I can't speak to fireclay, but I would vote for the drain to be closer to the back and or corner to free up space below the sink.

    • User
      hace 8 años

      Waterstone makes nice faucets. I've had cast iron in the past and now fireclay (Villeroy & Boch). Like both and no trouble with either, but I do semi-baby them. Not really out of fear, but habit. I've read a few horror cracking stories with hot water and fireclay - just don't pour hot water directly on to/in the sink, dilute with cold.

    • ekscrunchy
      hace 8 años

      I've had a Rohl fireclay sink for about 12 years and have had no problem at all. You might want to check the recent thread about Waterstone before you buy.

      aries61 agradeció a ekscrunchy
    • ekscrunchy
      hace 8 años

      Agree about the faucet price. If you want to spend those sums look at KWC, Barber Wilsons, and others made in Europe. (I have Barber Wilson in my apartment kitchen and it is a workhorse and very heavy, in a good way) but you can get a great one from other makers for much less. Newport Brass is top on my list right now and prices are at least one third less than Waterstone. Plumbing supply people seem to speak highly of Newport Brass, at least in my experience. And they come in about 20 finishes.

      http://barberwilsons.com


      http://www.newportbrass.com/products/categories/05/Kitchen/21/Pull-DownPull-Out-Faucets



    • PRO
      Restoring our 1890 Victorian
      hace 8 años

      I had my heart set on the Rohl/shaw farmhouse sink. But after 57,000 hours of research, I ended up choosing Kohler Whitehaven.

      Here are my thoughts why I decided against fireclay... but I don't think there is one right answer. Plenty of people love their fireclay, and visually, it would have been my preference.

    • aries61
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thanks for the comments about the fireclay sinks. Of the 2 sinks I posted, I like the size of the Rohl better, but still undecided between the two.

      Thanks ekscrunchy for bringing the Waterstone recent thread to my attention. Like any products anyone can have a bad experience with them. You hear more and more about that these days. I'm still looking at faucets and leaving my options open for them.

    • practigal
      hace 8 años

      I would opt for the kohler and I would not consider that faucet. There are much better ways to spend money then paying an $800 premium for what is a $400 faucet.

    • homepro01
      hace 8 años

      I have the Rohl Allia you posted above. Before that, I had a Rohl Allia double bowl in my previous home. I have had the current sink for over 6years. No crazing at all. There is one chip from dropping a drill in it but you can barely see the chip and it has never bothered me. I have a sink grid that I purchased about three years ago. I can do with or without a grid. I love the location of the drain in this sink and agree with others that a drain in the center is not always preferred.

      I also have a Waterstone faucet. I posted in the thread linked about. Although the faucet is made in the US, it is made of parts from all over the world. I had a Grohe Ladylux before and loved it. I also like my Waterstone faucet but would not pay more than the Grohe for it.

      Good luck!

    • kalapointer
      hace 8 años

      I have 2 Rohl Allia sinks in my kitchen and an Ikea Domsjo fireclay sink in my pantry. They were installed in 2010. I have not had any issues with any of them. I don't baby them and they are holding up great. Make sure you have an installer who knows what they are doing as you would with anything else in your kitchen. I don't know about Waterstone faucets, I have Grohe and they are wonderful too..

    • ILoveRed
      hace 8 años

      10 yr old Rohl farm sink, still looking good. I am on my second grid. First one was white. Dis colored and rust spots starting to show where rubber had come off the grid. Stainless steel grid now. A pain to clean the grid but your sink WILL chip without it. I have a garbage disposal, no cracks from using it as some have reported.

      i always run cold water when draining hot liquids.

      ten yr old Moen Aberdeen faucet. Still works like a charm. Good customer service with a replacement part that I recieved within a week of calling them. Friendly and efficient.

    • aries61
      Autor original
      hace 8 años

      Thanks for the additional feedback for the Rohl sinks.

      friedajune - Thanks for recommending the Riverby and the Whitehaven. The Riverby which I originally saw in a store is recommending a 36" wide minimum sink cabinet and I only have 33". The Whitehaven is a farm sink which I'm not interested at all.

      At least I have the sink narrowed down. Just need to narrow down the faucet. I like the industrial type ones, but not sure how they will look with a traditional kitchen with inset cabinets. I've seen a lot of the bridge faucets in traditional kitchen pictures, but not sure if I like the look. I currently have a Moen pull out faucet that I've had for 23 years without any problems.


    • Karen
      hace 2 años

      @aries61- Which sink did you end up choosing? I came down to your two sinks snd the Riverby in my narrowed down list.

      I found a display Rohl Allia sink with grid for $300 and trying to decide if I want to risk the fire clay sink.

    • M
      hace 2 años

      @Karen. Following

    • Karen
      hace 2 años

      @perryml - I chickened out and bought an Elkay Lustertone stainless steel sink. (Still love my 17 yr old one). DH reminded me that I complain about deep sinks hurting my back. So in this case, function won out over form.

    • M
      hace 2 años

      Thank you. Karen

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