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laura_0

Need help with ceiling replastering

laura_0
hace 8 años

Help!!

We've moved a stud wall that divides a front bedroom and are ready to re-plaster. The walls needs doing and the ceiling is Artex which we want smoothing off. We've got some cracks in other (original) ceilings and have been advised that if we add more weight to the ceiling it'll probably crack also. We've been told that the best thing to do is to board over the ceilings so the new plaster can be put on that.

We've got Victorian cornice on 3 of the walls and we've been advised that the best way to go would be to remove this so that we can get the best finish on the ceiling and to replace with reproduction cornice.

BUT I really don't want to get rid of the original cornice - even if the new looks right I'm going to know we've ripped out the original! I'm going to look at the cost of getting the 4th wall of cornice to match as it was suggested that we could board the ceiling but leave an inch gap round the cornice so that it still stands out.

Does anyone have any experience of similar? Will it look odd to have the ceiling lower than the cornice? I can't really picture it. Do I just go with the advice - rip off cornice, board and plaster and use repro cornice and save some money?

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  • PRO
    Gaetan Richard
    hace 8 años

    Hi Laura,

    Your cornices do not seam to hard to copy. If I were you I would get advice and quote from a plasterer able to do cornices. Good luck.

    Comentarios (9)

    • laura_0
      Autor original
      hace 8 años
      Photos of the main room. Cornice is the same in smaller room with it missing on both sides of stud wall.
    • Kerry Donnelly
      hace 8 años
      You can scrape/ sand the artex off, does take a lot of work. Please take my advice as only my personal opinion but I don't see why you would want to keep the cornice since it's already incomplete and not of great detail to salvage,,I just mean by the time you sand/scrape the artex off then recondition what you have it will cost more than the detailing is worth. I know somebody more qualified than me may come along and hang me for my suggestion of ripping it out but it's just what I thought when I seen it. I agree that it would look silly the new ceiling below the cornice like you said but maybe if you lowered it 150mm or so and put in recessed rope lighting or something to make a feature of it then it would look like you have did it on purpose.
    • Kerry Donnelly
      hace 8 años
      Gaetan Richard, I'm based in Glasgow and have been looking for a carpenter to make under stair pull out storage, is this something you could help me with ?
    • Laura
      hace 8 años
      Have you tried to scrape some of the armed off? Then you could wallpaper the ceiling.
      I was adamant I wanted to keep the original cornicing in my lounge. It's not perfect but I think (hope) the wallpaper looks great.
    • Laura
      hace 8 años
      Armed? Should say artex
    • paul5938
      hace 8 años
      Please do NOT scrape off or sand back the artex; older artex contains asbestos.
      Seal the original surface with Thistle Bond-it and apply new plaster over this.
      If you want to overlay the ceiling with plasterboard, consider adding an additional small moulding to the inside edge of the cornice for the new plasterboard to butt up to.
      Simples.
    • PRO
      BS Knapp Ltd
      hace 8 años

      As I said above (before I was logged in), do not scrape or sand the artex under any circumstances.

      We got over a similar scenario when converting a former vicarage into a children's nursery a few years ago where the original 1860's ceilings had to be upgraded to give 60 minutes fire protection. The building was grade2 listed, so the cornices couldn't be touched. The conservation officer agreed that we could fix another timber moulding to the ceiling end of the cornice that the new plasterboard could butt up to and form a 'lip' that the plaster skim could finish to.

      The new ceiling was 15mm lower than before, and didn't look out of place.

      One thing we did have to consider was the additional weight we were placing on the floor joists above. Our joists were ok and yours probably will be to, but just bear it in mind.

      From the pictures it looks to me as if the right approach would be to apply strips of wide (100mm) self-adhesive scrim tape to all the cracks and joins in the original ceiling, apply a good coat of Thistle Bond-It, or similar, to the whole ceiling area inside the cornice and re-skim to a flat finish.

      Just check beforehand the reason for the cracks; tap the ceiling, or push it with your fingers to check it hasn't lost it's bond to the lathing timbers behind. If it is loose it will need to be replaced.

      Older houses! Don't you just love 'em!!


    • laura_0
      Autor original
      hace 8 años
      Thank you for the advise. We've had the specialist cornice guy out tonight to measure up for making it to match and we'll have to see what he says!
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