Wine cooler differences?
Looking to install one of these as part of a kitchen remodel and I was blown away at the price difference between them. These start at around $2-300 and go up to $3-4000 for the size that I want. What is with the crazy price range for what is effectively a mini-fridge? Yeah I know it has some additional features like dual-zone setup and such but how do I decide what is paying extra for good quality manufacturing/reliability vs. brand name and hype?
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Ron Natalie
hace 6 añosThe real issue is what you intend to do with it. If you're just keeping the wine at serving temperature for a month or less, it makes little difference. By the one that looks the nicest for you at the price.
If you're going for a larger one that you are going to "cellar" wine in, you'd be better to get a unit designed for that.
As for whether you want dual zone or not really depends what you like and what you are drinking. Ideal serving temperature varies by wine variety (and even then despite what people tell you, it's largely a matter of personal taste).Scott MacDonald
Autor originalhace 6 años@Ron Natalie - Why does it matter how long you intend to keep wine in it? We've had home refrigeration figured out for almost 100 years now, it's not super complicated, you choose a target temp and the unit maintains that temp, the compressor kicking in when it needs to. What does a $3000 unit do that a $300 unit does not that would effect how long I intend to keep my wine in it? If it is snooty expensive French wine does it go bad when it detects it is in a cheaper unit?
User
hace 6 añosThings I looked for: no vibration, humidity range, temperature range, wine magazine reviews.
A $300 model usually holds a case or so, a $3,000 model usually holds 200-300 bottles.
Scott MacDonald
Autor originalhace 6 añosÚltima modificación: hace 6 años@Jim Mat - no, sadly it is not so. I'm not comparing a 20 bottle model to a 300 bottle model, I'm comparing apples to apples.
this is a 26 bottle built-in dual zone model, it is $600
https://www.winecoolerdirect.com/edgestar-26-bottle-dual-zone-built-in-wine-cooler/CWR262DZ.html
this is a 32 bottle built-in dual zone model, it is $4000+
User
hace 6 años$600 model is for inside your house installation. $4,000 model is for installation outside your house.
Scott MacDonald
Autor originalhace 6 años@Jim Mat - Outside your house??? Why would you keep your wine outside, wouldn't the unit get ruined by weather?
I guess the point of my question is that I can understand there's a range of prices for low end models vs high end...but this is kinda ridiculous that they're selling glorified mini fridges for 4k, so I assumed I had to be missing something?
mishmosh
hace 6 añosNot sure where you are looking but a mini-fridge type wine cooler is usually well under $1000. Those are for the undercounter variety that has venting at the front and a cooling fan. Regular mini-fridges have coils in the rear which would not be good for a built-in installation.
I believe our 19" undercounter refridgerator costs $700. A regular minifridge would cost about $200. Just like anything, I bet you could find one that was over $1000 for the well heeled. Not any different from a $50 watch or a $50k watch...both tell the time.
2ManyDiversions
hace 6 añosÚltima modificación: hace 6 añosThe difference is Perlick, which are more expensive than a less recognized brand last longer, are better built, or so I've been told. I don't think they are of the same quality as a Sub Zero wine cooler. There are all kinds, and prices. Frankly, this is one appliance we will skimp on. We've had a cheap wine cooler that's lasted us for some time now, and it keeps the temps correct. It's quite, doesn't vibrate, and is dual zone. It won't fit in our new kitchen, but we'll go with something less costly to replace should the new one break.
Steve J
hace 6 añosI have a dual zone wine fridge, and IMHO, i’d never buy a dual zone again. I do have a kenmore unit that is on the lower end of the spectrum so I’m sure that has something to do with it. Most wine is ideally stored at 55 degrees so if your goal is log term storage, a dual zone doesnt offer you a lot. You can ramp down the temp for whites before parties or serving, or you can also just put those bottles in your fridge or outside depending on temp. My unit doesnt monitor or adjust humidity, it just cools and evaporates a plastic container so i have to keep filling it. Because my unit is noisy, I tend to unplug it periodically at times and forget about the water tub. Let it sit long enough with the door closed and it turns into mold all over the inside of the fridge (yes, it happened). Prepare to maintain your fridge, or spend more up front and buy a better unit. Best of luck with your search.
2ManyDiversions
hace 6 añosWine Cellar Specialists, I'd give you 3 'likes' if I could. I hope the OP reads your short novella (honestly, it's not that long) - most clearly spelled out, even-handed explanation I'll probably ever read. Kudos.
Scott MacDonald
Autor originalhace 6 años@Wine Cellar Specialists sigh...I think you're still missing the point of the question. Lets use the analogy you put forward with cars because I think its a good idea...but first you're numbers are way off. A Corolla is $18,500 and an A6 is $50,000. So the Audi costs about 2.5 times what the Corolla does so that's not an accurate representaion, you need something that is 8-10 times as much so lets say a Porsche 911 Turbo which goes for about $182,000.
If I'm comparing those 2 vehicles I can see REAL tangible differences between the two:
-The 911 has 540HP and will do 0-60 in 2.9 sec, it has a top speed of 198 mph and is AWD-The Corolla has 132HP, does 0-60 in 9.5 sec and has a top speed of 111 mph, it does not have AWD
Is that worth 10 times as much? Possibly, if those things are important to you, but the point to take home is that these are actual measurable differences I can point to and present an argument justifying the extra expense. So far with the wine coolers, I've not heard what the $4000 ones do that the $500 ones do not. That's the thrust of the question.
Anthony C
hace 6 añosI had the same issues. We got this one
Silhouette 24" Dual Zone French Door Wine Storage - 42 Bottle Capacity - Stainless Steel
Steve J
hace 6 añosSnafu, you’re obviously a car person, so those measurable differences will mean more to you likely than wine fridge stats. For the expensive wine fridges, you’re generally getting more capacity, more efficient motors, better insulation and glass for efficiency, better motor mounts for little or no vibration which is bad for wine, hydrometers to monitor humidity, alarms to detect temp/humidity issues, more modular racks, better warranties, a better fit and finish, and last but not least, more often built to widstand the harsher environment of being shoved into a cabinet or tight closet.
mishmosh
hace 6 añosIt's pretty obvious what the differences are between $500 and $4000 wine fridges. It's all a matter of what you value and what your budget is. Not worth arguing.
stevep2005
hace 6 añosThe Perlick Outdoor Dual-Zone Wine fridge you zeroed in on is a bit of an outlier, designed to operate properly outdoors, you know, where it can be 100 or -10 degrees. It's for folks with fancy outdoor kitchens and big budgets. Regular refrigerators don't operate properly under those temperature conditions or in the elements.
I too was debating installing a beverage fridge several years back and was confused by the huge variance in price for comparable size units. I ended up bailing on the idea because we are also big craft beer drinkers, and beverage fridge designs don't accommodate craft beer bottle sizes well at all. Would not have been worth taking up the cabinet space, the noise, or the cost for just a handful of chilled bottles. Instead I got a $200 apartment fridge for the garage with far more flexibility and capacity, and couldn't be happier.
Good luck on your search.
kitchengirl
hace 6 añosConsider the quality of the motor, its efficiency and insulation, how well the racks function (or don't), vibration and humidity. I have read many reviews of inexpensive wine fridges dying within 5 years. While I don't have first hand experience with it, I don't want to put a large metal & plastic box on the curb after 5 years... I did steer clear of the overly costly high-end fridge manufacturers' wine fridges, but I opted to spend more on a Eurocave for its engineering and insulation.
nycbluedevil_gw
hace 6 añosI have expensive appliances in both of my kitchens (Subzero, Miele, Blue Star, etc.). But I didn’t see the point in spending 3k for a wine fridge in either kitchen. I went with a Uline that stores about 48 bottles for less than half the price. I have had them for several years and have been quite pleased.
nycbluedevil_gw
hace 6 añosHey KG—saw you got pounded with snow! We have family in Michigan and they are digging out. OP—sorry to hijack your thread:-)
kitchengirl
hace 6 añosYes, the most we've experienced in 4 years here -- still manageable, except for SoCal doggie's paws can't manage below 12°. She has finally learned to run outside and run back in! End of off-topic! Sorry to all!
2ManyDiversions
hace 6 añosnycbluedevil_gw, that's the route we're taking with our wine cooler as well... high end appliances but the built in wine cooler will be a Uline or something along those lines, and cheaply replaceable (same size, so built in doesn't scare me).
Scott MacDonald
Autor originalhace 6 años@kitchengirl - I hear you and I looked at the eurocaves myself and honestly for a 'proper' wine cellar, that's 100% the way to go. Once we get around to doing the basement that's what I'll put in for long term storage and aging. For the kitchen though, I think of it more as a short term storage solution...bottles you've pulled out that are ready to drink you want to have on hand for guests/dinner etc
@nycbluedevil_gw - Which Uline did you go with? They've come recommended from a couple people so I'm strongly considering them. Seems like just the right balance of quality to price maybe?kitchengirl
hace 6 añossnafu, I looked extensively, and planned on a full-size one temp unit to go in our mudroom, which is immediately adjacent to the kitchen (to keep the heat out of the pantry and did not want to 'feature' the wine unit). But in the end, I chose the wine/beverage 2-temp model from Eurocave, as it will allow us to use 1/4 of the unit for all the other bulky drinks that would clutter up our main fridge. Never thought I would choose a 2 temperature model, but it seemed to solve our situation best, and I dream of an uncluttered main fridge!
kitchengirl
hace 6 añosUline is a high quality product, IMHO. We found an under-counter model at Nebraska Furniture Mart on closeout, so we are using that in our rec room bar, as it cools down to the low-mid 30's, unlike some other brands -- good for beer, soda, water, etc.
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