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Galley sink vs Kohler Stages sink

isixpacku
hace 7 años

We are in the middle of the planning phase of our kitchen remodel. We will only be having one sink in our kitchen and it will be in the island. I was leaning towards the Kohler stages sink, which I found out about on GW, because of the functionality. I think the 45" one will be large enough that I can prep on one end while someone is doing clean up on the other side of the sink.

I mentioned the Stages sink to our KD and she told me to check out the Galley sink, which looks like a fancy version of the Stages sink. Several of her clients have installed it and loved it. I searched GW and the web for feedback on the Galley sink but couldn't find any. Has anyone installed the Galley sink recently?

I called a local kitchen and bath place which sells the Galley sink. They have only sold one so far and the owner was getting ready to put one in his personal kitchen. One of his colleagues whom sells the Stages and Galley sinks equated comparing the Stages to the Galley was like comparing a Chevy to a Cadillac. The colleague also said that he has had lots of complaints about the Stages sink scratching. Has anyone here had that issue? In all of the threads I read about the Stages sink I don't remember anyone complaining about it scratching.

If any of you have experience with the Galley sink, I would love to hear about it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Galley sink website

Comentarios (65)

  • dbabrams
    hace 4 años

    We installed a Prolific about 6 months ago and love it so far. We paired it with the Kohler Karbon faucet.

  • Maribeth
    hace 4 años

    Absolutely love our Kohler Stages sink. The Galley is beautiful, but I just could not justify the cost in comparison. The dark walnut cutting board of the Stages is elegant and I use it every day for all types of prep and love it. Great price point. I have two sinks in my kitchen: The 45" Stages in our 10' island is my prep/everyday sink and I have another by the dishwasher for clean-up.

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 4 años
    Última modificación: hace 4 años

    I wanted "The Galley" sink so bad but could not justify the price so I searched for years until I found the one for me. I got my 4' sink from "creategoodsinks.com" at a steal of a price compared to the galley! I was able to get most of the accessories that I wanted for it and have provided feedback to the company to suggest additional accessories to be sold to go along with the sink. Customer service from this company has been amazing and delivery was VERY quick. I did a video to try to show the functionality of the work station but since the camera was stationary, I don't think it did the sink justice. Feel free to skip down to the pictures.

  • linae
    hace 4 años

    I was facing the same dilemma when remodeling my kitchen. I decided that I didn't want to spend $$$$ on the Galley sink (though I LOVED the idea) and went with 45" Kohler Stages.

    I am sorry to say that, unlike many other people, I hate it. The zero radius corners are a complete PITA. The insert is very bulky and hard to maneuver when I need to clean the sink.

    And I am finding that I don't really need a 56" sink. A 33" sink would have been just fine and I wouldn't have had to sacrifice cabinet space (which I did).

    I would suggest looking into other options.

  • mrspete
    hace 4 años
    Última modificación: hace 4 años

    I got my 4' sink from "creategoodsinks.com" at a steal of a price compared to the galley!

    Hmmm ... I like these sinks. They offer a large ledge sink with an apron front. Maybe, maybe.

  • kawerkamp
    hace 4 años

    j6164, I'm also seriously considering the 50" ledge sink from creategoodsinks. Thank you for the pics--so helpful! My only reservation with creategoodsinks is that they appear to have only one ledge, instead of two (like the Galleys). However, in your photos, it looks like you installed it such that you almost have two tiers/ledges....is that the case? I.e., are you able to place a cutting board on the highest lip and then rest one of the boards with the nested bowl on the ledge beneath it?

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 4 años

    Hello kawerkamp. Yes, I made the reveal on the countertop so as to create a top ledge out of the top lip of the sink. This allows for the sliding of a top cutting board over the tier that comes with the sink to allow for the same sliding action such as The Galley and other companies. Please do take your interest directly to 'creategoodsinks' and feel free to mention that J. Harvey sent you. The owner believes more people want a high ledge as opposed to making it two tiers such as what I did. As such, the accessories being manufactured are geared toward the high ledge in place of making accessories sized to fit both the ledge in the sink and a 2nd ledge (accessories would have to be larger to accommodate the extra depth). I'm hoping the owner will be bombarded with interest from others wanting to have a 2nd tier that he develops a 2nd set of accessories just for what would be the upper tier. Make your voice heard! :P I have attached pictures showing how level the cutting board I had special ordered matches to the counter top. It's close enough for me to call it flush! :)

  • lala girl
    hace 4 años

    We have had the large stages and double karbons for 4 years and have loved the functionality of it. No issues with scratches - we have a sink grid in the bottom so maybe that helps. I think of this as a work horse in the kitchen and probably wouldn't be upset if it scratched, just part of living - it does its jobs very well!

  • kawerkamp
    hace 4 años

    j6164, you just saved me about $2K. Your cutting board is AWESOME. That's exactly what I want--flush with the countertop (the Galleys aren't even as level as you've worked it!) so that the transition is fairly seamless when working between counter and the cutting board. What size is your sink (I wanted the Galley 5, but creategoodsinks only has the 50" or 81" sink, so I may see if they can custom make something closer to 60")? Also, may I ask who you ordered your cutting board and accessories through? (they look very much like the Galley accessories, which I love...also love their customer service...if only Galley would drop their price, I think they'd likely be more profitable b/c they could sell so much more volume...as it stands, very hard to justify dropping $5K on a sink!) But creategoodsinks has a very good thing going on (plus I love their seamless gunk-free drains), and their sinks appear to be extremely high quality, so at their excellent prices (and your ingenious way to hack two tiers), I've found my man!

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 4 años

    I wanted the Galley 5 too. :P However, I've found that the 50" (which is what I have) is perfect for a standard family home without becoming an eyesore or too much of a focal point. I don't have an over-sized kitchen, so the 4' blends in perfect while still getting the attention it deserves. :) All of my accessories came through "creategoodsinks". However, the top tier cutting board of course had to be special ordered since it is not part of the blue prints of what the company offers. The owner was more than amazing though in accommodating. I gave him the exact measurements of what it needed to be and voila - you see the finished product. It did take a little while to get, but it was a custom piece - so I expected as much...and it was DEFINITELY worth the wait. Still trying to decide on what else I want for the top tier. I know I want at least one more cutting board though. :) I was pretty excited to save some moolah too, so I'm glad to help others in the process too. I designed the floor plan of my house and everything that went in it, designing a way to create a sink similar to The Galley was just another item on my plate. LOL Again, it was so worth it. I've been using my sink for 6 months now and I'm still head over heels in love with it just as if it were the 1st day!

  • kawerkamp
    hace 4 años

    j6164 So cool you were able to get custom-sized accessories from creategoodsinks. Did you consider or feel you would benefit from having two faucets over just the one (sorry to bombard you with so many questions! We are building a new home, and honestly this is the one thing I am most excited about in the entire house!)? I've noticed most of the Galleys have 2 faucets once they get over 4' wide--don't know if it would be super handy to have two or overkill/extra stuff cluttering the counter (esp because I'll have a second cleaning sink elsewhere in the kitchen)?

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 4 años

    The faucet we have is on the far side over the drain/disposal but it pulls down far enough to reach the opposite end of the sink for rinsing and cleaning. I've seen no need for a 2nd and it's probably because mine is only 4'. If it were longer my faucet would not reach. I do believe it would be overkill for a 4' or smaller sink. I like a more simplistic look and the one long neck pull down faucet fits the bill.

  • Maribeth
    hace 4 años

    I love my Kohler Stages sink. No complaints. Beautiful workspace. Just the right size. Worth a look.


  • cg1974
    hace 4 años

    j6164, we are planning on installing our sink just like you did so that we can have two ledges. Do you have any idea much of that top ledge sticks out out from under the counter top?

    Thank you!!

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 4 años

    It's a 1/2 inch reveal on top and 1/2 inch reveal on bottom - so you need your counter top template to include an additional cut out of 1' front to back for your sized sink.

  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    what size is the custom cutting board you ordered from creategoodsinks ?

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 3 años

    It was 17.25" x 18.50" x 1" thick. It was PERFECT!!!

  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    is this the 56" they sell? do you have two faucets or one?

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 3 años

    I have one faucet with a long extendable neck that reaches the far end of the sink (which I usually just use as a drying rack unless I'm serving there). My sink is 4'.

  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    hey jessica, sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to figure this out before i blow money on the galley sink, i appreciate it. so you have the 46 inch one? i see your second ledge is deeper than the ones online, i only see the 56" with the deeper 2 inch second ledge online but looks like your model has it.;

  • Jessica Harvey
    hace 3 años

    The reveal on the countertop was made to 'make' a top ledge. :) It's a 1/2 inch reveal on top and 1/2 inch reveal on bottom - so you need your counter top template to include an additional cut out of 1' front to back for your sized sink.

  • kawerkamp
    hace 3 años

    Renea fyi, I believe Jessica's sink is the 50" one (48" interior width): https://www.creategoodsinks.com/collections/ledge-sinks/products/1-2-radius-ledge-50-single-bowl-sink-offset-drain-left-5ls50  I'm on the fence between the 50" or the 56" sink for my own kitchen. Love creategoodsinks and all the customized accessories Dan provides--seriously the single item I'm most excited about for my new house!!

  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    create good sinks company told me they only made the deep ledge for the 56" sink, but ill call again because their website shows it on the 50 inch too. the other size sinks are a more shallow ledge, which in my opinion is too close to the reveal ledge.

  • kawerkamp
    hace 3 años

    I had the same observation, but learned that they actually changed the specs--Jessica has one of the original 50" that had the deeper ledge. Later they changed to a shallower ledge on the 50" b/c most people just wanted a single ledge. However, when they designed the 56" sink last year, they did it with the deeper ledge b/c there were some consumers who really wanted to do the double ledge thing with a bit more clearance between the two ledges. Hope that helps!


  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    oh man! i wish he did the deeper ledge with all the sinks to mimic the galley brand functionality. sigh...

  • kawerkamp
    hace 3 años
    Última modificación: hace 3 años

    I know--I felt the same way. However.....as I've seen more ledge sinks in use and talked to people who have them, I'm starting to wonder if I actually need/want two ledges. It all depends on how you envision yourself using two ledges at once, but for me, it was attractive primarily so I could chop produce on the top ledge and then sweep it into a salad bowl that is nested in the lower ledge. But one person I talked to said they do exactly that with just a single ledge, only they sit their bowl on the bottom of the sink (vs. nesting it in a lower ledge)--they felt they had all the same functionality, but it reduced the number of accessories/clutter (e.g., a ledge with a bowl-cutout) they needed and didn't limit them to containers/bowls that are specific to the cutouts in the ledge. How do you imagine wanting to use your sink for optimal functionality?

    Jessica Harvey, as I'm on the fence re. one vs two ledges, could you comment on whether you've found two particularly useful? Are there tasks you ask of it that just wouldn't work as well if you only had one ledge?

  • Renea Sabbagh
    hace 3 años

    hmm... thats very interesting info

  • Mary Payne
    hace 2 años
    Freckles- the video, although I could not understand, presented a beautiful sink and I liked the 3 ledges a lot. Has anyone in the us had it installed?
  • Silverlined
    hace 2 años

    Thanks everyone for this great archive of information. It may also be helpful to some people to realize that The Galley and only a select few other brands manufacture their stainless steel sinks with 316 stainless steel vs. the 304 commonly used. The 316 is much more expensive which is where the added cost comes in with The Galley. 316 is marine-grade and resistant to salts and chlorine, potentially giving you years of extra life with the sink. That said, I'm still on the fence about whether the extra cost is worth it. If you keep a 304 sink rinsed out and aren't regularly dumping high concentrations of salty water into the sink, a 304 sink might suffice. In harsh conditions outdoors, both 304 and 316 can rust within a month if not properly maintained.

  • elgable21
    el último año

    Hello all - sadly I don't have time to read all the interesting posts and see all the fun photos here anymore. I rarely have time to jump on... :( Gardenweb has been so good to me though, and I want to try to make time to answer any questions people have on the galley and create good sinks as I have both. I can't promise a quick answer, but if you have any specific questions that you can't find on this thread, speak up and I'll see if I can help :)

  • PRO
    SOURCED INTERIORS
    el último año
    Última modificación: el último año

    What amazing info! I was about to pull the trigger on the Franke culinary or chefs this morning but it isn't exactly what I need- then I saw this amazing thread. I need a cutting board and drying station most. I love square but I previously had a Kohler with sharp corners (love the look hated trying desperately to clean the very inner corners. Anyone have experience with Franke vs. the creategoodsinks, Kohler stages or Galley (crazy price point)?

  • PRO
    SOURCED INTERIORS
    el último año

    @Dormelles THANK YOU SO MUCH for such a comprehensive response. I'm in a very expeditious research phase and your response could not have been more helpful. Hats off to such a considerate person. I'm checking out all of your recommendations and will update shortly and hopefully pay-it-forward.

  • PRO
    SOURCED INTERIORS
    el último año

    @Dormelles one quick question... did you look at Franke?

  • Silverlined
    el último año
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    @SOURCED INTERIORS Yes, I did look at Franke early on but then decided on a workstation-style format and was unaware that they offered something like that. Among the non-custom brands, Kohler has a more prominent reputation than Franke for workstation sinks, but I was scared off from Kohler by reports of people seeing premature rust with them (you'll find a number of comments in numerous threads here at Houzz regarding that) and also from my own observation that the sink grid feet were cracked on at least two Kohler showroom samples I saw. A lot of people really seem to like Kohler, though, and haven't had any issues.

    Any type of stainless steel can rust if not cared for properly, including the marine-grade 316 which is more resistant to rust from salts than the 304 grade. To care for a stainless steel sink of any type, you'll want to avoid prolonged contact with salts and acids such as vinegar, and you should never use chlorine bleach in the sink. Also, never use steel wool scouring pads on a stainless steel sink which will corrode it. You'll want to avoid leaving standing water in contact with the sink for long periods of time, and you can use various formulas for treating and protecting the sink like this stainless steel cleaner from John Boos, available through various retailers and similar to many other such products on the market. As mentioned in my previous comment, the purity of the stainless steel also plays a large part in rust resistance, and some companies lack transparency about this.

    What drew me to Havens Metal for my sink purchase were several factors including the outstanding reviews of the brand here at Houzz, the better pricing compared to Rachiele, its nearest competitor (Havens used to manufacture Rachiele's sinks, by the way), and in particular the textured Prestige finish which hides water spots and scratches. I've not seen any other sink manufacturer that offers such a finish, and it is a game-changer when it comes to those features of stainless steel that can be problematic for some people. All of Havens welds are done underneath, so you won't see the sloppy weld marks on their sinks that you can occasionally see on The Galley. Also, all of Havens stainless steel sinks and accessories are now 316 grade. We're ordering new cabinets as part of the sink installation and plan to undemount the sink so that the cutting board surface sits at a height of 37 1/2" with a stone countertop above that for a countertop height of about 38 3/4". I'm 5'7" tall, and those working heights are good for me to help prevent back strain.

    My sympathy goes out to you being ready to purchase and then at the last minute finding some new information. The same happened to me with a vent hood purchase, being within 30 minutes of purchasing something else and then finding more information here at Houzz that helped direct me elsewhere to a more effective design with better ventilation. I wish you the best in your ongoing research.

  • PRO
    SOURCED INTERIORS
    el último año

    Thank you so much again @Dormelles!

  • Mary Payne
    el último año

    While building and planning my kitchen I looked at the Julian, Galley, Kohler and Creategoodsinks. All are workstation sinks which I think that is the direction of high end kitchen sinks. It is after all only a kitchen sink and that is what led me to creategoodsinks. Their version of a workstation kitchen sink has all the amenities of the others without the price tag. I bought it and love it. No regrets. I did resently see a video on a Japanese sink that had 3 tiers in the bowl and that piqued my interest but I am happy with my purchase.

  • Tiffany P
    el último año

    @Silverlined thank you for the great info. We are considering the Galley sink but I will take a look at Havens Metal. What type of vent hood did you go with at the last minute? We are doing a kitchen remodel too and will be getting a new vent hood. Thank you again.

  • Silverlined
    el último año

    @Tiffany P This popular and stylish GE Monogram vent hood was the one I almost bought. Then I found several threads in which the user "kaseki" commented, and you can find them by searching for his name here at Houzz. He is an engineer from California and has done extensive research on kitchen ventilation. The basic idea he and others explain is that not only is a ducted hood valuable (versus a recirculating one) for the best ventilation, but also a hood that has an adequate under-hood capture area to hold the cooking effluent that may outpace the rate of the blower. This topic is so much more extensive than that, but that's a start for you.

    We ended up with a Wolf vent hood that I found on sale as a display model. Lots of showrooms clearance these from time to time. The price difference between the GE and the Wolf on sale including the blower and duct cover was only $600 more for the Wolf with a much better shape for under-hood capture area. Also be aware that your jurisdiction may restrict the blower's CFM rating to a certain level (varies around the country) without a make-up air (MUA) system, which is expensive to install. Wolf has a lower-power blower option that fit with our jurisdiction's requirements which is why we focused on that brand. Other pro-style vent hoods usually start with more powerful blowers that require the MUA systems. Also be aware that for best extraction, you'll want the hood to measure at least 6 inches wider than your range. As I've researched kitchen renovations, I've found other people like myself who selected to make a workstation sink and a good vent hood the two big splurges for the kitchen. More than anything else, they directly effect the efficiency of your cooking processes.

  • SK
    el último año

    We are planning a full kitchen remodel and I'm deep in the research. I had my heart set on the Galley (60" in a peninsula) but costs are mounting and I'm now looking at creategoodsinks. I'd love to hear any updates for those who chose one way or the other. We're planning a relatively high-end kitchen, but I also want to be reasonable in terms of allocating the budget and not be hung up on excessive trends. Eg. definitely going for a Wolf rangetop, ovens/dw Miele, but not sure whether to do built in fridge or not. Similarly, if people are happy with the quality and function of Galley alternatives, I'd be happy to go another comparable route - but still the workstation sink approach. Being in Canada, the prices hit us even harder.


  • Jerry Jorgenson
    el último año

    SK - FWIW, we went with Rachiele a few years ago and we couldn't be happier. The mess stays in the sink and the counter keeps clean. I realize that it's expensive, but the low maintenance (just an occasional wipe) and clean counters make up the difference. (We saved on not replacing the fridge).





  • bubblyjock
    el último año

    SK - have you had a chance to, um, fondle a Galley sink yet? There's at least one in a showroom here in Ottawa, and I took the opportunity to have a really good look at it and spend time using it. They are knock-offs of the Rachiele sinks, but they're missing a few small but essential details that will drive you beyond bonkers.

    I spent a looong time choosing our sink, and ended up splurging on the fancy Rachiele copper workstation sink. It's his premium sink, and the price includes a whole array of extras. It does everything it says on the box, and more, and we LOVE it. I'd never go back to a regular sink. Dino's website is full of useful insights, and he's absolutely super to work with, by email and on the phone, as was everyone else in his office I dealt with. Great bunch of people who take pride in their work, and it shows.

    He often has sales, and if you can make it to the border, you can pick it up in the USA and drive it across. I didn't have time, and the shipping was high, but not prohibitively so. And the crate was spectacular - I convinced all the trades people it was a coffin sitting out there in the garage, lol.

    If you've got any more questions, fire away!

  • Silverlined
    el último año

    @SK You sound like the perfect customer for a Julien workstation sink. They are made in Canada of impeccable materials with exacting standards and would be exempt from cross-border duty and tax for you.

  • bubblyjock
    el último año
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    Dormelles - the Julien workstation sink isn't a patch on the Rachiele sink. It's not as well thought through, there's less attention to detail and, comparing dimensions between Rachiele and Julien, there isn't much to be gained on price, either; Duty, etc, notwithstanding. Nor are they available in copper.

    If the OP just wanted a plain stainless xl box sink, better to go to a local fabricator and buy the accessories online.

  • Silverlined
    el último año
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    @bubblyjock Thanks for the additional information on Julien. It is true as far as I'm aware that Julien doesn't produce copper sinks. My basis for recommending Julien's stainless steel sinks is the OP's Canadian location and the glowing review that Dino Rachiele himself, the owner of the Rachiele Custom Sinks company gives Julien on his own wesite under the heading, "What about stainless sinks? How do yours compare?" He wrote as follows, current as of November 18, 2019 (bold emphasis added):

    ". . . I have to say that we are not the only fine quaility stainless sink manufacturer in the world. I would put Julien Sinks, of Canada, in a somewhat similar quality range as ours. That being said, I have seen sinks built by other so-called Luxury brands have ripples in their stainless due to careless quality control. So . . . why buy a Rachiele stainless steel sink? First, the right or left rear drain is THE most important reason. . . . Secondly, our Millennia stainless is exclusive and helps to hide scratches and water spots. Thirdly, we offer a rustic matte stainless that looks just like zinc and is very easy to repair if scratched. This, to my knowledge, is unavailable elsewhere. But, if you find a right rear drain stainless sink that is made by one of the few quality stainless steel sink manufacturers, and it is less expensive than ours - buy it. Really!!! Julien, in Canada builds a great quality stainless steel sink. They are about the only company I can recommend other than mine. Now, if you are looking for a workstation sink, nobody builds one with a design even close to the functionality of my NexGen sink. There isn't even a close second."

  • Anu Singh
    el último año

    Can someone please tell me if Rachiele stainless steel sinks compares to the Galley sink?
    We are looking into a 57.5 inch Galley sink
    ( Workstation 5) but want to save some money.
    Thanks

  • Jerry Jorgenson
    el último año

    My opinion is that the Rachiele sink is better in design and can be customized to fit your specific needs. Dino is also great to work with. You get what you pay for.

  • bubblyjock
    el último año

    I would second Jerry's conclusion. I spent a long time fiddling around with a Galley sink, and I wasn't as impressed in real life as I was by their marketing (which is excellent - well-illustrated, and informative). I took a leap of faith when I bought our Rachiele sink. I did a ton of research on it, too, and it's even nicer in real life than it is as illustrated on the somewhat quirky Rachiele website. Rachiele were beyond amazing to deal with - every person I talked or emailed with was friendly, knowledgeable and courteous.


    From a usage perspective, the Rachiele design is much better. There are inherent flaws in the Galley sink that may drive you bonkers. Go play with them both if you can!


  • Harry Doyle
    el último año

    what flaws are you referring to? (Researching sinks myself)

  • Silverlined
    el último año
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    @Harry Doyle and @Anu Singh, normally I wouldn't make a comment like this as it usually goes without saying, but both of you seem to be sincerely looking for information and would truly benefit from reading all of the comments in this thread. Please set aside some time to do so even though it may seem like a long read. Your questions have already been largely answered here.

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